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Author:  Carl Bergstrom [ Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Artistic Composition & Asymmetrical Nebari

This thread is for discussing the article by Carl Bergstrom: Artistic Composition and the Position of an Asymmetrical Nebari

Author:  Will Heath [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 4:52 pm ]
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Author:  Attila Soos [ Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:25 pm ]
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Author:  Reiner Goebel [ Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:23 am ]
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I would just as soon have no visible root in this case. I am sure the tree could do without it or them. Definitely the looping root coming off the trunk at some height above the soil level should be removed.

And while the following diverges from the subject:
The centre of the tree should either be planted above the space in the bottom of the pot, or the pot should be rotated sufficiently to the left for the centre of the tree to be planted in the centre between two spaces.

And the thickness of the wooden slab and the height of the pot are too similar. Ideally, the slab would be only about a third the thickness it is.

Author:  Carl Bergstrom [ Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:53 am ]
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Author:  Walter Pall [ Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:11 am ]
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Author:  Will Heath [ Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:44 am ]
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Author:  Walter Scott [ Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:49 am ]
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In response to Walter Pall's comments, I generally agree.

However, many cascading trees that I have observed in nature have roots that are most prominent on the side leaning away from the slant. These roots are prominently seen because they grip the side of a cliff and have been exposed by erosion or because they seem to have been pulled out of the soil as the tree cascades under the weight of snow, for example.

Such an arrangement of roots can tell a story that is not inconsistent with the direction of the slant of the tree. Therefore, I think that the root arrangement Walter describes is generally preferable but not exclusively so.

Author:  Walter Pall [ Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:14 am ]
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After having reread my post I have to slightly change it:

For me every one-sided tree should have one-sided roots. This means ideally roots all around but clearly longer and stronger roots to one side.

The side for the longer roots should be the direction of the slant in slanting trees and most half cascades and cascades. Half cascades and especially cascades can also have the stronger roots opposite to the direction of the cascade. This would then dramatize the tree and probabyl would mean to have a rather dramatic crown design.

For all those who don't know me so well: whatever I say, the opposite is often also true. Smiley!!
Walter

Author:  Gary Swiech [ Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:08 pm ]
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Author:  Ron Sudiono [ Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:36 am ]
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Author:  Hector Johnson [ Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:32 am ]
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Perhaps some exposure of roots to the left (short side) of this tree would assist the composition. I've long understood the roots on a slanting or cascade tree should bunch up, as "knees", on the long side of the tree (direction of lean) as though they are under compression. As Walter Pall suggests, they should appear to be holding the tree against gravity.

Roots on the other side should be stretched taut, like cables restraining the tree from falling, if they are visible at all. Any visible roots should be short, straight and angled downwards into the soil, on that side.

The tree appears to be quite small. It occurs to me that it also may be the material is still in training and has been dressed to show a little too early in its development. There's not much information to be had from the photo shown. Discussion without enough information often leads to conjecture and supposition.

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